Illegal Use of Winnaway Path

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Posted by Guy W on behalf of A Iwi

Dear cyclists,

This morning while walking on the Winnaway, I was passed by a motorcycle on the footpath. Obviously this is illegal, and also unpleasant and potentially dangerous for other users of the path.
This should be addressed while still relatively uncommon, and not allowed to escalate, so please can you report any similar incidents to the police, particularly with any camera footage you may have. I imagine they might not do much on the first report, but hopefully will do if the same registration is reported by multiple people. There is a reporting form at https://reportonline.thamesvalley.police.uk/

The incident occurred on the hill, and I couldn’t see from there whether the rider was going to a property on the Winnaway or continuing towards the labs. But even if it was a local resident, the footpath is not a private track. The surface of a public footpath belongs to the council by law, and it was resurfaced at public expense for unmotorised use. It is open to the residents to resurface their private road adjacent to the footpath for more comfortable use by motor vehicles if they so wish.

Thank you,
Alan

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    • September 28, 2017 at 7:36 am #3496
      Guy W
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      Posted by Guy W on behalf of A Iwi
      This morning while walking on the Winnaway, I was passed by a motorcycle on the footpath. Obviously this is illegal, and also unpleasant and potentially dangerous for other users of the path.

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    • September 28, 2017 at 7:54 am #3497
      Anonymous
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      One has to be a little careful in Harbug citing legalities – I note that the current OCC interactive countryside access map has the Winnaway designated as a footpath only and *not* for cycling (but, clearly, not for motorised vehicles either)!!

    • September 28, 2017 at 7:58 am #3498
      ribble23
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      I also witnessed this as I was cycling up the road from the Rowstock roundabout the motorcycle took a left onto the A4185 then right onto Curie Ave so it appears they going to site.

    • September 28, 2017 at 8:12 am #3499
      alaniwi
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      It seems they’ve enabled my login so I can reply myself – thanks.

      To ribble23, definitely please can you report this. Even if you don’t have the reg, it might make all the difference between an uncorroborated report and one they can act on. Please mention when you saw it. I won’t tell you the time myself, in order to ensure that it is your own independent report.

      To Didcotbob, I see there is some discussion at http://www.cyclinguk.org/article/campaigns-guide/cycling-on-footpath-trespass , and regarding the question of “reasonable use” which they discuss there, clearly given that the council have resurfaced it in collaboration with Sustrans with the very intention of use by cyclists, it *easily* passes that test. In any case, it is *at worst* a civil trespass (though note the distinction between “footways” and “footpaths” discussed there). Regarding motor vehicles, it is a criminal offence. s.34(1) Road Traffic Act 1988.

    • September 28, 2017 at 8:22 am #3500
      alaniwi
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      Oh, and on the subject of legalities… *even* if the Winnaway does later get officially upgraded to a bridleway (and hopefully it will be), it is worth being aware that the law which grants cyclists a right of way on bridleways does so subject to an obligation to give way to pedestrians and horse riders:

      https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1968/41/section/30

    • September 28, 2017 at 11:17 am #3501
      Anonymous
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      Yes, notwithstanding the motorbike issue, it would probably be appropriate that HarBug/Sustrans ask the council (officially) to update their map in the light of the intended “reasonable” use demonstrated by the resurfacing.

    • September 28, 2017 at 11:42 am #3502
      alaniwi
      Member

      @Didcotbob – if you are referring to the map at

      https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/countrysidemap/

      it would appear that the routes which are shown if you select “cycling” are simply based on the legal status (from the definitive map), and I guess that the site is not designed to accept any other source of data as input.

      You will see at:

      https://www.oxfordshire.gov.uk/cms/sites/default/files/folders/documents/roadsandtransport/oxfordcyclemap.pdf

      that parts of the Thames path are shown as recommended cycle route even though it is legally just public footpath, so the council certainly allow for this possibility, but I guess that the Countryside Access Map is not a place where this info can be displayed (short of a major redesign of the website).

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